Comment Neelie (Kroes)

With one caveat, this line is spot on. As Albert Einstein once said, "we can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." The caveat is this, while some technical people should be excluded from future deliberations, some non-technical people should also be excluded. These are anyone that has played a role in supporting, deploying, promoting, or developing Microsoft products has been an ongoing part of the problem and is thereby incapable of positive contributions in the area of digital security. Getting rid of Microsoft products alone won't make secure systems but it is an essential first step which cannot be skipped. Ken Thompson in his 1984 paper "Reflections on Trusting Trust" showed conclusively and with finality that open systems are an essential pre-requisite for computer security. This is also as much a staffing problem as a technical problem and means that some people and groups need be removed or circumvented for progress to be made. It will take strong nerve and deliberation, more than was shown a few years ago, to stand up to them as they have been used to having power for so long.